Russian troops are deliberately targeting civilians on a large scale and call ukraine a fake country. They've deported children that are being adopted by Russian families. And they had a bit of a phase where they liked to threaten various countries with nukes. America isn't covered in glory but Russia is full on dreadful with the mass destruction and death they are carrying out.
Russia wants Ukraine. We only wanted oil. If those people didn’t put their country on top of Halliburton’s oil, there wouldn’t be such problems In the world.
Of course, I am not suggesting that one heinous act is excusable because someone else did a similar heinous act. That's just like Republican "whataboutism".
I'm with you on this. The replies arguing moral superiority of the US make my stomach turn. I'm glad Putin is seen as a pariah by much of the world, but I'm disturbed that did not happened with the US and Iraq (not to mention all the coups we've supported....)
Yah the PTSD thing. Why do the actions of the US seem so reminiscent? Maybe has something to do with their constant Manifest Destiny imperialistic marathon... SSDD. Somedays I wonder what planet I'm on since I feel like an alien, or alienated in my own lands
OhLookie!!! My dead relatives, 250 men women, and children were massacred!!! 20 Americas were awarded the medal of honor for this.
"The difficult Indian problem cannot be solved permanently at this end of the line. It requires the fulfillment of Congress of the treaty obligations that the Indians were entreated and coerced into signing. They signed away a valuable portion of their reservation, and it is now occupied by white people, for which they have received nothing." General Miles.
"O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood From sea to shining sea!" [Manifest Destiny much?]
Such good people, those Americans running about the world disrupting other governments, deliberately invading countries for the wrong reasons. Gotta love em for doing all these things in my name and the name of the citizens. B F'n Sheit!! Let's see here...Saudis masterminded and carried out 9-11 so..WAIT I KNOW!!! Let's invade Iraq and bomb the bejesus out of the country and accidentally gain control of their oil fields. OMG I'm so moved by the patriotism of the nation "Oh say can you see". Yeah I can see but I don't like what I see!
No they are not sorry for their multitude of transgressions over numerous generations, for all the brutal heinous murders and thievery that they have committed or caused around the world (often in cahoots with the English). Really what can one honestly conclude except the USA, at least its leadership, is a malevolent entity? The saying "chickens have come home to roost", is normally used to mean that the bad things that someone/nation has done in the past have come back to bite or haunt the individual. Bad Karma Baby! Now Americans are trying to overthrow Americans. Surprised? Imma pray about it! In Jesus's name, I/we will be forgiven and vindicated? Right? I doubt it sincerely.
According to the Washington Post, the USA has tried to overthrow other democracies 72 times. (Sorry, the story link is a paywall.) Try google for same/similar verification.
I think the difference would/will be the consequences.
If Russia "wins", there will be total genocide. That has been stated, quite clearly, as the intention. It would be very foolish to disbelieve it.
Many innocent Iraqis died, but Russia would/will make that look like a walk in the park.
A Republican government would/will facilitate the process.
Russian troops are deliberately targeting civilians on a large scale and call ukraine a fake country. They've deported children that are being adopted by Russian families. And they had a bit of a phase where they liked to threaten various countries with nukes. America isn't covered in glory but Russia is full on dreadful with the mass destruction and death they are carrying out.
Russia wants Ukraine. We only wanted oil. If those people didn’t put their country on top of Halliburton’s oil, there wouldn’t be such problems In the world.
I made the same point about five months ago with this post on Daily Kos:
Of course, I am not suggesting that one heinous act is excusable because someone else did a similar heinous act. That's just like Republican "whataboutism".
I'm with you on this. The replies arguing moral superiority of the US make my stomach turn. I'm glad Putin is seen as a pariah by much of the world, but I'm disturbed that did not happened with the US and Iraq (not to mention all the coups we've supported....)
Vietnam war is a better comparison, imo. We fucked that country up, really really badly, and we absolutely targeted civilians as a matter of policy.
Here, the "napalm girl" from the famous photograph, wrote an opinion piece in the nytimes (gift article, no paywall): "It's Been 50 Years. I am not 'Napalm Girl' Anymore"
Yah the PTSD thing. Why do the actions of the US seem so reminiscent? Maybe has something to do with their constant Manifest Destiny imperialistic marathon... SSDD. Somedays I wonder what planet I'm on since I feel like an alien, or alienated in my own lands
OhLookie!!! My dead relatives, 250 men women, and children were massacred!!! 20 Americas were awarded the medal of honor for this.
"The difficult Indian problem cannot be solved permanently at this end of the line. It requires the fulfillment of Congress of the treaty obligations that the Indians were entreated and coerced into signing. They signed away a valuable portion of their reservation, and it is now occupied by white people, for which they have received nothing." General Miles.
"O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed His grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood From sea to shining sea!" [Manifest Destiny much?]
Such good people, those Americans running about the world disrupting other governments, deliberately invading countries for the wrong reasons. Gotta love em for doing all these things in my name and the name of the citizens. B F'n Sheit!! Let's see here...Saudis masterminded and carried out 9-11 so..WAIT I KNOW!!! Let's invade Iraq and bomb the bejesus out of the country and accidentally gain control of their oil fields. OMG I'm so moved by the patriotism of the nation "Oh say can you see". Yeah I can see but I don't like what I see!
No they are not sorry for their multitude of transgressions over numerous generations, for all the brutal heinous murders and thievery that they have committed or caused around the world (often in cahoots with the English). Really what can one honestly conclude except the USA, at least its leadership, is a malevolent entity? The saying "chickens have come home to roost", is normally used to mean that the bad things that someone/nation has done in the past have come back to bite or haunt the individual. Bad Karma Baby! Now Americans are trying to overthrow Americans. Surprised? Imma pray about it! In Jesus's name, I/we will be forgiven and vindicated? Right? I doubt it sincerely.
According to the Washington Post, the USA has tried to overthrow other democracies 72 times. (Sorry, the story link is a paywall.) Try google for same/similar verification.