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    Dip Dibbler
    Dash  ·  
    Jun 22
    Edited: Jun 22

    Hearings news

    in General Discussion

    6-22-22

    It appears after Thursday's hearing, there will be a delay.


    The reasons stated are similar to the previous ones. This means that more info or possibly evidence is overwhelming the present agenda and causing a reset in the progression and presentation. Last I watched on an MSNBC clip, the next hearings will take place in July. My patience wore thin sometime ago with the torrent of awful works of Trump, his family, and the GQP. This is not to mention the court processes are naggingly, and tediously slow if happening at all. This political and judicial pussyfooting around is a real grind on the citizens imo.


    As mentioned previously, the fear is a gutless bunch of politicians and Justice shot callers will fail to act or do so in such a weak manner it will be meaningless. There are no choices other than what we are seeing or so we are led to believe. Who knows whether an individual or group will snap and some manner of vigilantism will appear. I was thinking how many of us will die waiting around for these leaders to get this damn show on the road! Among other things, it is maddening.


    If it does turn out to be a wimpy outcome. It is not going to satisfy either the people, justice, or the remedies that are screaming out to be applied. Another personal .02 of about .08 I've contributed so far..


    Meanwhile, the criminal nut case Repugs have more time to scheme and plot.

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    Dip Dibbler
    Jun 23
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    The topic was about pardoning and the ability to run again, All of that has an orbit that envelopes justice, privilege, or the lack thereof those things/ideas. Immunity is somewhere in that equation too.


    THE justice.gov site looks at the illusory nature of these topics and decisions and the list clearly indicates prejudicial outcomes as privileges for/to politicians who are all white and wealthy. It's obvious! They are all white!


    The justice system is very solid when it comes to persecuting the powerless and dispossessing them of their freedom and dignity. When rich white folk commits crimes of national or international dimensions.. then there is a lot of hemming, hawing, and beating around the bush while lawyers literally rake in millions.


    As wtf suggests, it's (injustice of gargantuan scope) not top-secret info. It's available in numerous historical and academic publications

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    WTF Vax Up
    Jun 23

    If anyone has doubts as to the truth Dip speaks of, some honest reading up on the subject is in order, not simply accepting falsehoods as fact which perpetuates continued suffering. The scrubbed nature of Native history taught and current status of those living on reservations countywide is stunningly appalling. You may or may not be surprised that casino cash isn't flush for all Natives, far from it, and as you know the drill, where there's cash, there's corruption, so take it from there and run with it, hopefully leading to a sad but true realization.


    Pretty yucky stuff but necessary to contemplate, if you care anything about the humanity involved. You will want to spend some valuable time reflecting on the past and present day horrors and dreadful destiny for so many beautiful people. We can do hard things, and work together toward a better reality check, seriously.


    Take a peek at some research and available information from trusted sources. My imagining is that, if you provide effort to investigate, you will be shocked, moved, pain strickened and appalled at what you find, even if one only scratches the surface of centuries of abuse and annihilation of First Nations People. Essential objective was to nullify their existence, long before and after Hitler had intended with the Jews, only done at a much drip-by-drip slower pace. Then, if you find yourself contemplative of mind, most certainly you will come away with enlightened understanding, compassion and a want to help in any way possible. That may even start simply, with the internal realization void of resistance to truth. Every bit helps.


    This whole area of discussion is difficult to grasp in so many ways. Huge issues, larger than anything you may want to think of,truly. Natives live it every day, generations before have as well, so perhaps consider that.


    One issue to ponder, is the expansive nature of Native cultural misappropriation. Cultural appropriation (or cultural misappropriation) is defined as "the adoption or exploitation of another culture by the more dominant culture.


    This is a constant abuse carried out and saturating so many areas of our current American culture. Not placing blame, one note to mention is that lack of awareness behind the insulting nature and perverse oppression of this is pervasive. It goes unnoticed in our society, not a priority or even an afterthought for most. A simple example of a fix for cultural appropriation would be the renaming of sports teams, mascots, so forth. I've heard many moan and whine about the impetus without actually knowing or understanding the background nature, the back story, of this issue. If they did, truly, their ignorant words, they would choke on.


    I'm not sure if I've made any friends giving my honest input, but no matter. To grow, even incrementally, in a postive way as people in the wide berth of our daily lives is a beautiful thing. This is my truth. I appreciate it being brought to light, difficult as it is.


    Okay, that's my two cents right now. More to say, but fresh outta pennies, need to scratch some more coin together.


    All that and then I realize I'm OT, oh well. But Dip did lead the way, in my defense lol. So, anyway, I'll just say, Fuck Trump and all his bootlickers freako maniacs, hope they burn for their crimes, every single one of them!! Okay...feel better now!

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    Dip Dibbler
    Jun 22
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    My authoritative, meaningless overall opinion is:


    As long as most wealthy, Euro-Americans hold all or the bulk of the power, that's all they (the owners) care about.


    Native Americans are the "First Nations People".


    Euro-colonial-Americans are the "First Nazi people" perpetrators of an ongoing genocide on the First Nations people and their resources; Illegally, by their own laws, occupying Native lands.


    I'm not going to earn any friends by stating my views. Since more than 600 treaty violations are ignored by Americans and their government, I have to judge them by their record. As stated in the constitution "Treaties are the Supreme Law of the Land"


    To me that means as long as your govt disregards and cherry-picks its laws and application, they are unjust and lawless outlaws. That's the grandiose egotistical self-image Americans generally holds to and generally act themselves out to be. Trump is but a reflection of the obvious corruption of America.

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    Dip Dibbler
    Jun 22
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    I don't know. The link below may answer your question. From what I recall hearing from others here convicted Trump couldn't run. I don't know about pardoned Trump. There's a bunch of lawyer stuff that is ambiguous


    https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions


    Can the President pardon someone before they are indicted, convicted, or sentenced for a federal offense against the United States?


    It would be highly unusual, but there have been a few cases where people who had not been charged with a crime were pardoned, including President Gerald Ford's pardon of President Richard Nixon after Watergate, President Jimmy Carter's pardon of Vietnam draft dodgers and President George H.W. Bush's pardon of Caspar Weinberger. President Donald J. Trump pardoned Joseph Arpaio and others after they were charged and convicted, but prior to sentencing. See Pardons Granted by President Donald Trump (justice.gov)

     

    A pardon is an expression of the President’s forgiveness and ordinarily is granted in recognition of the applicant’s acceptance of responsibility for the crime and established good conduct for a significant period of time after conviction or completion of sentence. It does not signify innocence. It does, however, remove civil disabilities – e.g., restrictions on the right to vote, hold state or local office, or sit on a jury – imposed because of the conviction for which pardon is sought, and should lessen the stigma arising from the conviction. It may also be helpful in obtaining licenses, bonding, or employment. Under some – but not all – circumstances, a pardon will eliminate the legal basis for removal or deportation from the United States. Pursuant to the Rules Governing Petitions for Executive Clemency, which are available on this website, a person is not eligible to apply for a presidential pardon until a minimum of five years has elapsed since his release from any form of confinement imposed upon him as part of a sentence for his most recent criminal conviction, whether or not that is the conviction for which he is seeking the pardon.

     

    https://www.factcheck.org/2008/11/felons-in-office/

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    Avery Voyeur
    Jun 22

    If you are pardoned for a crime, can you then run for office again?


    Is a pardon as if it never happened? Or would accepting the pardon be an admission of guilt and thus prevent you from running for office?

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