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    Pat Rice
    Jun 11

    Justin Bieber's partial face paralysis

    in General Discussion

    Justin Beiber and his wife both had COVID-19 again in March. They have never confirmed if they were vaccinated, but since then she has had multiple clots, a stroke, and neurological issues. Now he has a rare neurological syndrome. I'm sorry to hear about this, but I also wonder if they are connected.


    We will probably never know, but if it is related then maybe the world will start caring about not letting a virus run amock. People don't care about the workers, but they do care about celebrities.

    P.S.A. I hope people are aware that Monkey Pox is also airborne. Please just mask up.





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    Dip Dibbler
    Jun 14
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    The way these AV people think. It's deviant though I suppose you could consider it a form of critical thinking when it is not outright sophism. I suppose some scientist will, or did, get a million $ grant to prove or disprove.


    Bieber's eye movement thing is strange.

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    Pat Rice
    Jun 14

    https://twitter.com/DrKatEpi/status/1535735378703003649?s=20&t=tkI-8ndXn4oMzpUV3_dIow


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    DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon
    Jun 14
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    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/justin-bieber-ramsay-hunt-covid-vaccine-1367430/

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    Pat Rice
    Jun 14
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    Journalism is so questionable nowadays. My favorite part of the article was “Everybody pretending Justin Bieber isn’t vaccine injured. The denial is way too deep,” reads one tweet with more than 3,400 shares. I'm not sure if the number of shares equals credibility.


    They referred to Dr. Kat in the article, so I posted her thread below for others to read. As one Twitter user stated, "Justin Beiber and his wife must be the unluckiest couple to have so many medical events in such a short time.

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    DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon
    Jun 15
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    @Pat Rice I believe journalists mention the shares/re-tweets and likes so that people can get a sense of how disinformation spreads. I don’t think it’s always meant to thumb a scale. Now if it were Fox then, sure, it would mean that in almost every case. This is Rolling Stone. While not as great as it used to be, it’s still relatively decent. The gist of the article remains that Bieber had multiple illnesses, slammed his immune system, and enjoyed FAFO. I don’t see it any other way. Even though 3,400 morons do.

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    Publicenemy
    Jun 13

    Is facial nerve palsy an early manifestation of COVID-19? A literature review

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002962922001598?s=04&fbclid=IwAR2vx3ykjyHwIUX6niOIVAxbwTN19wE_OBcpY2_o4fANPDaW8YPynos-98I

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    VACCINATE or ICU later 🐊alligator
    Jun 13
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    FYI, this is a proof, not an accepted for publishing, so NOT a peer reviewed journal entry. One reason it may not be accepted yet is because ANY infection or stress to the immune system can cause Bell's Palsy... so the answer to the question is yes ...

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    DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon
    Jun 12
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    His wife’s father is an absolute lunatic wingnut. I would be shocked if the daughter had been vaccinated. Also don’t believe this guy was. They’re utter loons. The lot of them.

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    jvraines
    Jun 11

    VZV activation is opportunistic. The stress of fighting off SARS-2-CoV could be a factor, as could lingering cell damage (which we are still struggling to understand).


    I've had Bell's Palsy, which is suspected to be caused by HSV activation in the cranial nerve, although not as clearly demonstrated as with Ramsay Hunt and VZV. It started with a weird tingling in my tongue and lip, just on one side, then progressed to paralysis of the face. The biggest hassles were eating and drinking without dribbling, and keeping my eye moist on one side (the lid wouldn't close). It took about four weeks to resolve completely.

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    Charon the Ferryman
    Jun 13
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    Same here but above left eyebrow. Doc suggested high doses of steroids may work, but anyway after a month or so it got better, although I can still feel slight numbness where it began. His attached medical student used me as a case study

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    oppnhk98c12s
    Jun 11

    The shingles vaccine is indicated for those fifty and older or those with weakened immune systems. I have talked with many people who’ve said that they had shingles in their 20s and 30s. One woman even told me that her 15 year old daughter had it. The only reason the vaccine isn’t for those under 50 is because they didn’t test it in that segment of the population.

    I wonder if COVID can weaken the immune system enough to allow an infection like shingles.

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    perlinator
    Jun 13
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    Most people were vulnerable to shingles long before covid existed.

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    Queer Butch Dyke ✯✯🏳️‍🌈✯✯
    Jun 15
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    Absolutely, yes. I have long Covid (Feb 2020) and just went through two months of shingles hell. My former coworkers at the practice (where three of us contracted Covid from a patient) and I are all now considered immunocompromised and are dealing with various "surprise" conditions. The best news I've had in a long while is that one of us three was facing potential lung transplant but in the recent two months his lung function has begun to improve on its own. He is healing, slowly. I got the news a couple days ago and wept for a solid hour afterward.

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    Dip Dibbler
    Jun 11
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    I was at the theatre back a little over a decade ago. I don't remember what film I saw. but only a handful attended it. The adjacent theatre was packed. I didn't have a clue what that movie was about. A steady stream of girls, some very young, were going in and out of that theatre. I learned it was a concert movie featuring some guy named Justin Bieber. He was a "teen Idol" (do they even use that term anymore?) I never have paid much attention to the artist. The only performance of his I watched was in the, IMO, odd production of one of Jake Paul's fights. No doubt in my mind that the guy has talent.


    About all I would see of him was news reports of him getting in trouble for juvenile sheit like throwing eggs at his neighbor's house.


    I watched the Twitter video paying attention to his eyes. His eye movement is affected on the bad side and doesn't always move in tandem with the other.


    Yah I do wonder if covid played a role in the illnesses he and his wife have contracted especially at such young ages. I'm not a follower of his but it is a tragedy that they have both been struck down like this. I hope they recover but it could and has severely impacted both of them.


    It really is troubling all of this covid stuff (understatement). Some of these young people think their invincible and many don't appear to be affected by covid but the long-term effects could be lurking for a time yet undetermined and unrevealed.


    I worry about my son too. He had it early on but appears to be healthy and strong at this point. He's vaxxed and boosted now but is still arrogant about taking precautions. Potentially his dismissal of the possible devastating effects of covid could affect both of us. There is a personal hatred and fear regarding this pandemic that grinds on me as surely as it does others. I'm so weary of this constant nemesis called covid. It's destroying family and social cohesion as well.


    I presently see many attending large events where most of the people are unmasked and I know a certain number of covid-related tragedies are going to result for those attending. All those young folks on fire with their hormones raging and gathering at clubs and spring break events, I can only shake my head at. We're all somewhat powerless over a nearly invisible microscopic virus and is concerning.


    It's nothing new as past pandemic episodes have revealed the same human behaviors and dismissal of these realities. I'm sad and it is depressing. The new projections of a resurgence of this and other pandemic-related issues are a real downer.

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    TotsNPears
    Jun 11
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    @Dip Dibbler

    I also have a vaxed and boosted (just once though) son who thinks he’s invincible. He argues with me that he traveled the world (he was dating a flight attendant at the time) in 2020-2021 without getting covid once, got 3 shots moderna total and got through a very minor omicron breakthrough last December and that he’s done with shots. I worry, but he’s almost 30 so can’t force anymore out of the kid atm.

    I‘m just so damned grateful that I wasn’t a stupid 20-something with raging hormones when this shit hit.

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    VACCINATE or ICU later 🐊alligator
    Jun 11
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    40 percent of a cabin's air gets filtered through a High-Efficiency Particulate Air (HEPA) filtering system, while 60 percent is fresh air from outside... which co-relates to 100% fresh clean air every few minutes... A risk mitigated, but now the rules are more lax. Inside anywhere else is a huge risk as there are few rules anywhere... and few masks to protect others.


    Remind him that a country's hotspot of COVID is not going to care about his feelings...


    As someone who still tracks daily case and death in a file since the beginning...


    I can add this info...



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    piscean blowhard
    Jun 11
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    Charon the Ferryman
    Jun 11
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    This is not an easy answer. Bell's Palsy, which is what this is, can be caused by Lymes disease-tick bite.I have been there

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    jvraines
    Jun 11
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    @VACCINATE or ICU later 🐊alligator Vaccines prevent serious disease. They are not necessarily cures nor do they eradicate pathogens directly. We have vaccines for chickenpox and shingles.

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    VACCINATE or ICU later 🐊alligator
    Jun 12
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    @jvraines Thanks for clarifying my clarification. It needed it... T& P was writing about the Herpes virus and I should have specified HSV1 & 2 when I said no vaccine.

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    perlinator
    Jun 13
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    @TotsNPears Anti-vaxxers don't want to do any real research! They persist in believing that the covid vaccines are toxic because it's what they want to believe. Anti-vaxxers say that they do research, but their idea of "research" is simply cherry-picking stuff that says what they've already decided is true (confirmation bias).


    Of course, the covid vaccines do not provide total 100% protection against every possible ailment. So, when someone gets sick after being vaccinated, anti-vax idiots can claim that it's because of the vaccine. As if no one in history ever got sick from anything before covid vaccinations existed.

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    Sen. Ron "Tiny" Johnson
    Jun 11
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    That's crazy-if you watch the video, he can't even blink on the side that's paralyzed. I'm assuming they weren't vaxxed, as he is a "christian" now...


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    Malo
    Jun 11
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    Rummaged around on line; Bieber was vaxxed. No word on his wife. Tech guy Steve Kirsch who went full bore antivax and hasn’t shut up since says he’s 99% sure Beiber’s illness is caused by the vaccine. Also thinks it killed Taylor Hawkins. Of course Hawkins was a guy in his fifties who had a combo of prescription and recreational drugs in his system but Kirsch believes they had nothing to do with it. Vaxx killed him.🙄

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