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    DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon
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    Jul 02

    Lefty Think Tank

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    So the right wing has the oligarchy paying nitiwits to think on its behalf. We lefties need to scoilast the resistance. What are some ideas for countering this fascist overreach which threatens our future? We need tactics within our communities and we need to feel empowered, not defeated. We will win.

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    Deanna C
    Jul 03
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    I miss Keith Olbermann.

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    Deanna C
    Jul 03
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    We need active public figures who are actually nothing right now. Steve Banon, and Etc. He’s nothing. But he doesn’t shut up, and the bullshit out of his mouth shows up on every liberal and progressive website I visit on a daily basis. I guess just to get us fired up, but sometimes it has a depressing effect instead. Some days I just feel defeated. I would love to feel energy. We need a Reverend Al Sharpton for a new generation. Christ remember him in the 70’s? (Some of you won’t, LOL!). He made people soooo angry! We need some LOUD voices To carry the messages nonstop.


    Does anyone remember the ‘Guardian Angels”? Sliwa, and Lisa what’s her name? Well he’s a giant jackass, of course. But he was EVERYWHERE. Newspapers, magazines, TV. He demanded attention. We need spokespeople, who not only command attention, but demand attention.


    I watched a MTG video the other day, and every time she was asked a question, she came back with things like ‘why don’t you ask DOJ about the case against Hunter Biden? Why don’t you ask the democrats why they would try to prevent babies from being born? Why don’t you ask Joe Biden why we’re supporting Ukraine when we can’t feed our own children?’ She was as disgusting as you’d think, but she didn’t answer a single question. We need a reporter in the crowd who pushes back. Someone who will say, ‘I have questions for democrats, but these are the question I am asking YOU right now. Can you answer please?’ We need our own NewsMax. Maybe call it NewsMust. Employ a google device to make sure internet searches for NewsM puts NewsMust first. The difference would be, where NewsMaxx (or whatever 🙄) goes balls to the wall with bullshit, we need people who are NOT polite, or civil, and go balls to the wall with truth.

    had some wine. Sorry about the (lack of) paragraphs!

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    Unknown member
    Jul 02

    Yah, this is a good exercise.


    I guess it depends on what level(s) of activism one is capable of or willing to commit to. Is it going to be a formal organization or a grassroots semi-anonomous effort?


    If you want to keep it on the internet and utilize images and rhetoric to mock and inform, That will have an effect up to point


    Depending upon the impact or potential your group has, you can count on equal amounts of pushback. Once the powers that be feel threatened by the efforts of a group, they will either temporarily suspend the onward march or launch attacks upon the groups and individuals. This will include those faces at the top of our own similar orgs and institutions. Perhaps elements of idealistic territorialism will enter the picture. co-operation of like members may become competitive or petty among themselves.


    This is the political realm as I've observed it. Those who would represent the face of such movements will be courted and or covertly targeted by the powerful. The powerful will offer generous assistance at first, but likely with strings attached. They will offer you standing within their org if you co-operate with their agendas. quid pro quo will be in play. Compromise will be in play. They may give you meaningless awards and cater to the vanity of those they seek and find to be useful targets to use to dismantle the cohesiveness of the groups.


    These types of strategies are well known to those power groups who will feign a certain amount of support and respect until they discover ways to defeat you. then your groups will be crushed and forgotten. The powerful notch their weapons signifying their victory over you. The powerful will forge alliances with elements of your group whom they will turn to their will by patronizing, gifts, and opportunity that the poorer groups could formerly only dream of.


    The original grassroots planners/organizer may lose their purpose and identity and the existing power groups will, in a sense, become the leaders by proxy after compromising and changing the meaning of the original will and intent of the group. They make keep the same slogans, the same dress, etc but now those things will all have had their original meaning stripped, co-opted and redirected.


    I've been involved in certain aspects of community organizing. Your group will also experience internal struggles that the enemy will try to exploit.


    This leads to the most important part of us versus them situation. We know they have almost inexhaustible resources and the power to generate funds. Us average to poor common folk have limited resources.


    Oddly enough some mainstream branch entities that support rightful efforts are "People of Faith" organizations. That support can provide some solutions while simultaneously being part of the core problem.


    I have literally seen members of groups "sell out" to their enemy for positions and properties and for prestige. Betraying the cause of the group's democratic decisions and falling into the trap that the enemy has set for them.


    Group cohesion, cooperation, and participation is an imperative otherwise the conquer and divide strategies of your enemy will prevail.


    These are my thoughts as rambling and incoherent as they may be.

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    DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon
    Jul 03
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    I just don’t think of CA as rock solid blue. There are vast swaths of Dumbfuckistan there. And, gawd, now the dipshittery in San Fran. The wingers are leveraging hard on the Asian community. They’re ripe for manipulation and they’ve voted in some real selfish assholes to the school board. Anyway, don’t blink! And what we really have to do is move to red states. Now young women won’t be easily able to take that risk. The Rs pulled this stunt just for that reason - once internet expands we could have gone anywhere. They can’t have that. So they’ll cattle chute us into the blues. If we want things to change we either kill the electoral college or we move to Wyoming.

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    oh the stupidity
    Jul 03
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    Moving to purple states might be better. I’ve thought about it & whenever I say it out loud, people laugh at the notion. But retired folks with pensions might find it feasible. Cheaper than the coasts too.


    Anti-government rhetoric has been seeding the minds of the less educated & rural people for decades & now it’s borne fruit. Plus Democrats f-ed up & neglected the working class and lost a lot of them.

    Anyway a lot of the battle is telling the right story enough times.

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    Unknown member
    Jul 03
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    don't know what the b-ees army is. Most of a reorganization effort is likely beyond my pay grade. I can tell you that when you reach a certain point that is threatening to the owners, they will take action. That a-hole supreme court interfering in tribal governance is an example. The assholes are making a preemptive strike on first nations sovereignty to prevent a workaround for those Americans who wish to subvert the RW control freaks. Their need is to keep their knee on the necks of the roe vs wade egress into people's private lives and choices.


    Tribal governments are "domestic dependant" entities. They are being used as pawns. Tribal entities and the US govt might be likened to the parent-child relationship of a corporation and a subsidiary. The dynamic is "do what we say or else" situation. Obviously tribal nations aren't truly sovereign with plenary power. The same could be said of the nation's citizenry. You have a certain amount of self-determination within the bounds of the laws which we the people are supposed to impose upon ourselves via our congressional representatives. In this case and the electoral college too, these entities have the potential to usurp democracy. This has been done and it is a blatant violation of the trust of the people when these entities determine the outcome of elections and laws.


    It's a house of cards in a sense. When these entities betray the will of the people it leads to civil unrest. This is the point where Donald dipshit and minions can and have jumped in to make themselves dictators and untouchable aristocrats. More than that they had the ability to influence the court members, stack the deck, to work for their agendas. He tried to do the same thing through his attempt to replace the electoral college votes.


    But yah, if some upstart group shows up on The Owners radar, they will do any number of things to stop you. That includes infiltrating the org and disappearing people. I can practically guarantee they are monitoring conversations like this at this very moment.


    It's a shadowy world with many slippery slopes. Most here know that Gawd isn't going to intercede on behalf of the righteous. but I guess we can pray, and offer tots and prayers to psyche ourselves up. Look how much such activities promote ignorant and stupid actions by those relying on religion. ha ha. Make your prayers smart ones if you're going to make them.


    I want to do the right thing. Positive and progressive realities manifest because of the tangible and beneficial results that sound decision-making brings. Sorry for the sloppiness of my expressions. I'm too tired and lazy to make adjustments at present. Repugs still suck and they should fuk off.

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    vaxxed and thankful
    Jul 02
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    Found following links:

    https://www.spiralmn.com/

    www.unrestrictmn.org


    hashtag #DidYouKnowMN in social media

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    WolfenBane 🐺 SAV Werewolf
    Jul 02
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    I'm so far "radical left" that I want everyone to have access to a level of free healthcare so families don't have to beg for money on gofundme when their child has cancer.

    How radical of me.

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    CoffinBuilder
    Jul 02
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    Effective ads. Show the worst that they are, say, and do. Hang the fucks with their own words.

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    Unknown member
    Jul 02
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    I would go with trees, ropes and necks instead.

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    LinnieMae
    Jul 02
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    Since Psycho Donnie sprung onto the scene, I've become a big advocate of the firing squad in situations like this.

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    Akasha, Queen of the Damned🧛‍♀️SAV Vampire
    Jul 02
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    Organize. If all minorities, LGBTQ and women join together we will have more power. Th right wing fascists are working together. So must we. but how?






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    CoffinBuilder
    Jul 02
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    "YOU have the power" seems like a good slogan. Motivate people to vote.


    they don't want you to vote.

    they removed 1,000 drop boxes.

    they want to arrest us for giving voters water.

    they want you to be silent.

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    Unknown member
    Jul 02
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    I like the general Idea as long as we don't physically congregate. the fascists may find a group as described an opportune time to rid themselves of all those lessers they love to hate. Barrell-fish-shoot

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    Unknown member
    Jul 02

    I'm literally a left lefty. Can't do much with my right hand except flip the bird to these right wing fucks.

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    DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon
    Jul 03
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    I am also a lefty squared.

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    DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon
    Jul 02
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    Left wing militias.

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    Unknown member
    Jul 02
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    I'll have to brush up on my mafia code talk to reply to this one.

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    CoffinBuilder
    Jul 02
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    roger stone sleeps with the fishes.

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    Unknown member
    Jul 02
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    smells like a rotten one too.

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