The shitty site already erased 2 paragraphs last night and I had to redo it today and still may have errors... forgive.
The debate lie B U L L S H I T !
“So many things I said were debunked, totally debunked, like Charlottesville,” said Trump, referring to his infamous “very fine people” line referring to neo-Nazis. Trump went on to complain that as he was under the microscope during the “unfair” debate, “[Kamala Harris] could say anything she wanted.”
“They ought to take away their license for the way they did that,” said Trump, in a clear threat to ABC News. (Today he wants everyone at the station fired...) https://newrepublic.com/post/185868/trump-threat-abc-news-debate
Trump Posts Deceptive Video
Falsely Claims Jake Tapper "Debunked" "Very Fine People" Criticism Trump's edited video cut off Tapper's full remarks. https://meidasnews.com/news/trump-posts-deceptive-video-falsely-claims-jack-tapper-debunked-very-fine-people-criticism
Nazis organized Charlottesville. Very fine people” on “Both sides”
I always keep receipts.
This is Nazi in a suit, Richard Spencer, on a more generic poster online. See the update for the one they passed among themselves… Also note that he told his Nazis to wear suits, and if not, white polo shirts and khaki pants to look more respectable…like tRUMP when he golfs. They knew this event was going down in history…
The Good, the BAD and the UGLY!
There were good people on only ONE SIDE...
The cops were told to stand Down...
And they did and it was obvious, even as weapons were everywhere, people were being beaten and shots were fired they looked the other way... until the murder of Heather Heyer, that is. That changed everything,
Should you need a reminder...
NPR documentary of the march, hate, violence preview made a year later. :
So why did the KKK and Nazis decide Charlottesville? BECAUSE IT WAS PRE-PLANNED to coincide with D'Souza THE FELON's book! They wanted to assure it was Dem territory to make Dems look bad. See the Tweet D'Souza wrote and their plan and RW talking point he attached to it below...(Aug 4, 2017)
THIS IS IMPORTANT...but down the memory hole it went.
'Conservative author Dinesh D’Souza said Friday in a since-deleted tweet that he paid a visit to the White House to brief President Trump’s chief strategist, Stephen Bannon, and national security aide Sebastian Gorka on his latest book tying the Democratic Party to Nazism.
“I stopped by the White House to brief Steve Bannon and @SebGorka on how Trump can flip the accusation of fascism on the Democratic left,” D’Souza tweeted, posting a photo of Bannon and himself posing with his book, titled “Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left.”
The tweet was deleted minutes later, but, a few reporters captured screenshots of the image. https://x.com/christinawilkie/status/893512139905880064
LOOK at the ratio of Hillary to tRUMP voters on the chart and see THAT was the reason for the choice, not the stupid statue! I wrote long before the march that tRUMP was planning to have a race war so that Antifa and BLM would be called terrorists but it all backfired when a woman was murdered and a young black man beat up.
Deflect and accuse the other side of that which you are guilty. There is ample evidence that it was staged by the right and timed to go with D'Souza's book. See the posters which were sent out MONTHS before... The picture on Instagram of Bannon and D’Souza and his new book was removed almost immediately after it was put up. The book compares Nazis and socialist and tries to rewrite history on Nazis, Hitler, socialism and US racial history and says it was all the left…
In other words it was projecting … to give cover for the racists, KKK and neo-Nazis and tRUMP. There was no way these morons were not getting credit for their work and the book getting white house publicity ... but someone said to stop ...it's a SECRET plan ...and so, they deleted it.
‘Manipulating my very fine people… ‘
tRUMP was pissy in the 3 interviews following the riot because the plan did not go well and someone was killed. It was supposed to be about Antifa/BLM being thugs and getting them on a domestic terrorist list.... but that all changed. Not in tRUMP's brain though. LOSER45 hates losing... and when he does he will say he won...
On Saturday, tRUMP first vaguely denounced what he called the "egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides."
On Sunday, the White House added a "clarification"explaining what they wish tRUMP had said: "The president said very strongly in his statement yesterday that he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry, and hatred, and of course that includes white supremacists, KKK, neo-Nazi, and all extremist groups. He called for national unity and bringing all Americans together." https://www.reuters.com/article/world/after-criticism-white-house-says-trump-condemns-kkk-neo-nazis-idUSKCN1AT09B/
The Tiki march was supposed to be the lead and make it look like they were innocent boys. The night before, they chanted "you will not replace us,” as that would be shown on Fox and to the RWNJs and NOT the RW violence.
That was staged... but the nasty Nazi boys took it over and made Antifa look like victims and heroes. (The march the following day included “Jews will not replace us" and "Heil Hitler” and “Blood and soil” as chants)
Was it Miller or Bannon's plan? Likely both. Bannon loved the racial tension as a distraction to tRUMP’s misdeeds. Was Bannon removed because his idea failed? I believe so. Bannon's only job seemed to be leaking to Breitbart and the war room. He and Kellyanne were hired by Mercer to work for tRUMP, but with Mercer's agenda and tRUMP was pissed his plans to declare antifa terrorists failed.
Remember that funding had been frozen by tRUMP
for anti-RW hate groups (Who are white) ... shortly after inauguration. Then, “In the final days of the Obama administration, $10 million in Countering Violent Extremism funding was awarded to 31 different applicants, including several groups dedicated to combating white supremacy and de-radicalizing neo-Nazis."
But the Trump administration froze funding for the grants while it reconsidered the applications, re-examined the goals of the program and altered how the grant program would measure efficacy.
Reuters reported at the time that the White House was considering retooling the program to focus more on radical Islamic extremism than on white supremacist groups. Trump also proposed entirely eliminating the program in his 2018 budget request. Bannon "was a chief strategist, whose strategy was to burn everything down. tRUMP only minded when it made him look bad...
When the administration finally released its revised list of grant recipients this summer, funding was pulled for a total of 12 grant recipients — including $400,000 for a group called Life After Hate, which was one of the only original grant recipients focused on fighting far-right extremism.
The nonprofit organization, which was touted by then-DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson in a press release, is one of the only programs in the U.S. devoted to helping people leave neo-Nazi and other white supremacy groups. The Trump administration also cancelled a $900,000 grant that would have gone toward the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill to counter jihadist and white supremacist recruiting.”
After that spike in 2017, 2018 of home grown white terrorists, tRUMP still had no intention of making funds available for anti-hate groups that are white. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna926361
The DHS emphasized in a statement that “sixteen of the 26 recipients have applicability to all forms of violent extremism and as such will address the threat of domestic terrorism.”
Everything tRUMP touches dies...
But this was purposeful. (Besides the fact that these grants targetted tRUMP's supporters) tRUMP hates Obama and that a black man had the highest office in the land and that he DARED to call out white supremacy and violence. Here is the GAO WHITE-washing tRUMP's actions since. https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-216
And more whitewashing...
But this time, there had to be some money passing hands. Or threats...or they hired lying POS MAGA nasties to "debunk" for tRUMP because this is pure garbage!! "Why Is Snopes.com Helping Trump Clean Up “Very Fine People? The generally valuable debunker of right-wing lies made a very odd ruling recently that may have ramifications for the election."
According to Trump, there were “very fine people” in both of the two groups, which included the people who went to the rally organized by neo-Nazis and people who protested the neo-Nazis. Those were your “sides.” Trump, here, said that within the group of people at the neo-Nazi rally, where “the night before” they were marching with tiki torches and chanting “Jews will not replace us,” there were “very fine people.”
Unite the Right was a neo-Nazi rally. It did not matter whether every attendee called themselves neo-Nazis. If you show up to an event where there are people walking around with swastikas and chanting “Jews will not Labeling this as “false” without acknowledging the nuance of Trump’s doublespeak misrepresents the reality of his rhetoric.
This is not just about parsing words; it’s about understanding the implications of those words in their entirety. Failing to recognize this allows history to be rewritten in a way that sanitizes the dangerous equivocation of those in power.
Snopes is using the BS that PragerU, James Woods and Scott Adams have spewed and point to the first or the latter point I made above... Bribery or threats, because all of this info is still available online!
Why is all this coming back to the fore? Diaper Don Jr declared it "white Boy Summer" and Biden and Harris spoiled it! The tRUMP family relishes their vengeance like working people look forward to the weekend. I have no idea why I even write here when this guy can tell you a week in a nutshell and make you laugh as well... https://www.dailykos.com/blogs/ShowerCap
Richard Spencer
posted a video of the 'Jews will not replace us' chant to Twitter as well as many other I only had URLs for... which got erased but which you can find online. (but I can't embed here.) He and all his Nazi boys can likely be found on Leon's X somewhere ...but I do have this...
UPDATE1 What tRUMP really said and why... with transcripts ...scroll or click: https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/forum/main/comment/aa83c2d7-52b6-4ba5-ac86-f0a1e96cc561?postId=66e243dfd668a70011f632e9
UPDATE1
What tRUMP really said and why... with transcripts
What Snopes failed to do, purposefully obviously, was to look at all the facts!
tRUMP took so long to respond because he did not wish to condemn anyone who likes him and voted for him. The violent were supposed to be Antifa. tRUMP was supposed to label them domestic terrorists after this ended and he was simply spewing his previous shtick… but the message no longer worked so as he tried to walk away his team and reporters asked for more. His 2 previous pressers on the subject were ambiguous at best.
That people have forgotten this is horrendous, really. tRUMP denies reality and the press, all of the GOP, even some dumb Dems and even “fact” checker acquiesce.
NY: tRUMP’s 's Response to the Situation in Charlottesville, VA. Aug 15
(Laughingly called in infrastructure presser…as you should recall tRUMP did nothing but blather about an infrastructure week throughout his 4 years)
Q. Let me ask you, Mr. President, why did you wait so long to blast neo-Nazis?
Q. Why do Nazis like you?
tRUMP: I didn't wait long.
Q. Why do Nazis like you?
Q. You waited 2 days
tRUMP: I didn't wait long.
Q. Forty-eight hours.
tRUMP: I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct, not make a quick statement. The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement. But you don't make statements that direct unless you know the fact. It takes a little while to get the facts. You still don't know the facts. And it's a very, very important process to me, and it's a very important statement.
So I don't want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement. I want to know the facts. If you go back to..
Q. So you had to—[inaudible]—White supremacists?
tRUMP: I brought it. I brought it. I brought it.
[The President removed a sheet of paper from his breast pocket.]
Q. Was it terrorism?
Q. What did you bring, Mr. President?
Q. Was it terrorism, in your opinion, what happened?
tRUMP: As I said on—remember, Saturday— [tRUMP: read from the sheet of paper part of what he said Aug. 14] "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence. It has no place in America." And then, I went on from there. Now, here's the thing——
[A reporter had to finish it for him, because as usual he left off something…]
Q. [Inaudible]—on many sides.
[Then tRUMP reiterated that he cared about facts and getting his statement right (Spin to his favour)and repeated that multiple times rather than answer. But then, he tried to pin it on Antifa once again]
Q. Is the alt-left as bad as White supremacists?
tRUMP: I will tell you something. I watched those very closely, much more closely than you people watched it. And you have—you had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent. And nobody wants to say that, but I'll say it right now. You had a group on the other side that came charging in, without a permit, and they were very, very violent.
[See what he did there? The counter-protestors were the ones who did not have permits… and he lumps them together as ‘Antifa, the ones I want labelled as terrorists’ in his mind… and says THEY the violent ones. tRUMP does it often. Please see the poster and remind yourself who DID have permits for the rally… ]
Q. Is the alt-left as bad as Nazis?
tRUMP: Go ahead.
Q. Do you think that what you call the alt-left is the same as neo-Nazis?
tRUMP: Those people—all of those people—excuse me, I've condemned neo-Nazis. I've condemned many different groups. But not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were White supremacists by any stretch.
[Some of them were just MAGA extremists and terrorists who would later show allegiance by attacking the Capitol(s) ]
Q. Well, White nationalists——
tRUMP: [{pivots again] Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee.
Q. Should that statue be taken down?
tRUMP: So—excuse me. And you take a look at some of the groups, and you'd see—and you'd know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases you're not—but many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.
So this week, it's Robert E. Lee. I noticed that Stonewall Jackson is coming down. I wonder, is it George Washington next week? And is it Thomas Jefferson the week after? You know, you really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?
Q. Mr. President——
tRUMP: But they were there to protest—excuse me—you take a look, the night before they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee.
Q. Mr. President, are you putting what you're calling the alt-left and White supremacists on the same moral plane?
tRUMP: I'm not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I'm saying is this: You had a group on one side, and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs. And it was vicious, and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch. But there is another side. There was a group on this side. You can call them the left—you've just called them the left—that came violently attacking the other group. So you can say what you want, but that's the way it is.
Q. Mr. President, in your words——
Q. [Inaudible]—on both sides, sir. You said there was hatred, there was violence on both sides. Are the——
tRUMP: Well, I do think there's blame—yes, I think there's blame on both sides.
Q. Is there bigotry on both sides?
tRUMP: If you look at both sides, I think there's blame on both sides. And I have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-infrastructure-and-exchange-with-reporters-new-york-city
There is much more (Of the transcript and of my files of the people involved, and where they ended up, but I will spare you) but this cannot be debunked if you look at it as a whole. tRUMP and his cronies helped make that event happen, planned for groups to clash, planned for there to be chaos… but then the murder happened … but as always LOSER45 makes sure other people take responsibility and he takes NO BLAME …
The next picture is U.S. State Department official Matthew Q. Gebert, (Poida, he links to Q and racism in Australia!) standing in front of the person in black, is pictured here in Charlottesville, Virginia, in May 2017. This rally was staged by white nationalists. He is one of tRUMP’s fine people …
More posters
'Very fine people' continue to show up...
How LOSER45 sees the world