Police Response in Texas Shooting was Piss-Poor

A lot of Hispanics that I know (I live in North Texas) vote conservative because they don't want anyone to associate them with "the illegals". They are usually very quick to tell a white person how they were born here, or that their families go back so many generations, etc. They will do almost anything to not be viewed as illegitimate, and more than a few of them hate undocumented workers for putting them in that situation. I would imagine that the closer you get to the southern border, the more common this is.

I see it as a type of Stockholm syndrome, really, and I didn't understand the depth of it until I talked to Hispanics who were voting for Trump despite his calling them rapists and such. This stuff goes DEEP. I always cringe when liberals refer to Texas Hispanics as "LatinX" - which they hate with a passion. Even if they might agree with Democrats on a lot of working-people and social issues, this one thing keeps them supporting conservative candidates -- the hope that they will be accepted by the powers that be (i.e., white and moneyed people) as belonging, as opposed to "the other".

@Abider Spot on. Internalized racism. I don’t understand why they’d want to be disassociated with some a hard-working group of people. The USA is fucked without Mexican and South American labor. The whole mentality of dismissing the skilled labor involved in agriculture underpins the whole debacle. We act as if this isn’t crucial. We treat important humans as if they aren’t important. We act as if our food happens as if by magic. We allow horrific conditions for migrant workers. All of this makes huge bank for very, very rich Americans. It only works because racism works so effectively. I wish people understood how much racism within “umbrella groups” also plays into all of this. One of the most racist people I ever knew in my life was from Peru. She was hired to interpret for me. Not until I was interviewing a Mexican family did I find out how much she hated Mexicans. I simply couldn’t believe what I heard. I was so shocked. This same thing was described to me by black friends with very very dark skin color. Said their whole lives they’d been treated differently by lighter friends and family. Also found that shocking to hear. Humans are just fucking weird, gross and tribal. I don’t know what else to say about us except we are disappointing and could be so much more than what we are.

@DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon : My son worked in roofing installation in Arizona for a short time. Said he'd never seen such hardworking people as the Mexicans who worked alongside him. He was sure at least some of them were undocumented workers, and he didn't have a problem with that. Who else is gonna do that work? My son lived there in the early spring, and left not long after when the temps hit 109° in, like, April.

That’s an Army combat motto, too. Or was. When it was cool to slaughter civilians in the streets of Baghdad.

The fact that they made it illegal to study gun incidents just shows how abjectly corrupt they are.

I'm guessing it was a turf/jurisdiction tussle between the UPD ( which had a 9-man SWAT team) and the CISD (which had 6 SROs with some tactical training, but no SWAT team). It looks like they're going to throw the Chief of the Uvalde CISD, Pedro Arredondo, under the truck for the screw-up:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/29/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting-sunday/index.html

(IMHO, the blame has to be shared by the CISD chief, the UPD chief as well as State agencies, but it was the CISD chief who was the commander on the scene, so he'll have

to take the blame.)

@siva.chander I keep wondering about the communications between the 911 dispatchers and the police on the scene. Were there no communications? How did they break down?

Politicians won't pay attention because money.

@Polly Plague interesting article

Totally agree!

@10 point White tail Did he ever have a logical train of thought for the betterment of the people who elected him & he's supposed to serve. Serious question, not banter, I really don't understand his line of thinking...or the electorate that re-elects the whole lot of them against their own best interests. Paxton quickly comes to mind, the att gen who thinks laws are useless in reducing gun violence. WTF, truly.

@WTF Vax Up welcome to movement conservatism. Policies that actually address problems and provide solutions be damned. The reality is what we say it is (Rumsfeld I believe) and the solutions are also what we say they are despite the majority of people recognizing how full of shit they really are. Very effective when you have a party with think tanks and foundations funding the psychologists and marketers to find hot-button issues and determine how to message on them to keep people voting against their own best interests. Tragic.

And going to be the downfall of our democracy here in US. Alexis de Tocqueville (French writer around the revolutionary war times) had serious doubts about democracy until he toured the then growing US countryside. He was convinced democracy could work afterwards because he found even farmers in their fields could discuss intelligently all the topics of the day and their impacts. We have lost that. We now have memes, social media, and a damn near illiterate society who haven’t a clue how our government is constructed and is supposed to work. We have allowed the defunding of education while remodeling our economy to vastly benefit only a very small percentage of our population.

@Pro-Vaccinator, not procrastinator Thank you for outlining that! de Tocqueville was onto something, sad for us the degradation of our wonderful common values! Scared for the future generations if it continues on the path we're riding. I laugh at Jimmy Kimmel's clips when they question passer-bys on things like branches of govt and current affairs relating to our civics' knowledge. The laugh is a nervous one, however.

Mr "We don't know what we don't know" Rumsfeld...ucky being, now passed thankfully. Was horrified watching him orchestrate the Iraq War, our troops bore the brunt of his ignorant selfish words and actions. Ugly, awful period in our history. The beat goes on...