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    WeepsforHumanity
    Dash  ·  
    May 27

    Separated by a Common Language

    in General Discussion

    It occurred to me last night that several good-hearted commenters were baffled by Vaxlady’s request to avoid a particular word. (I also learned some interesting information about the Queen’s use of slang. I haven’t met her, so I’ll take their word for it). For many people in the US, that word is as derogatory to women as the N word is to people of color. It’s rarely used, so it still has shock value - much as the F word had about 50 years ago.

    Having commenters from every English-speaking country here, I thought SAVers might like to share some other words or phrases that surprise, offend or just stymie them. With global media, there may not be as misunderstandings now. But this might keep s few OT threads off the main pages, and may just help avoid a future flame-war.

    I shared one last night: when I soent a semester at school in England, I couldn’t understand why people kept asking me - a female - to “knock them up.” It took a few weeks before I understood it meant “come knock on my door.” Caused me a lot of embarrassment.

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    TotsNPears
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    Other words that have started to find their way into my vernacular is “bruh”

    Typically used when someone has done something truly stupid and asinine. Example:

    one of my pharmacy techs got lazy stacking supplies and a whole rack of vials, lids, and covid testing supplies spilled all over the place. Pharmacy tech #2 witnessing the event:

    ” BRUH!” Both were females.

    I mostly work with people 20-30 years younger than me and it seems to be genderless, although I’m pretty sure it originally started out as a term for males.


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    Jedi Marmot
    Jun 02

    Trump, with a small "t" means fart in the UK.

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    TotsNPears
    Jun 02
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    @Jedi Marmot

    Wow, did not know this. I will forever spell it with a small “t” from here on out whilst talking to my trump family/friends and it will greatly amuse me.

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    Poida
    Jun 02
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    Words that are off limits in Australia.

    Coon.

    Boong.

    Abo.

    Gin.


    All highly derogatory words for aborigines. Same as the N word in America.


    To me language is all about context. How is Cunt derogatory to women when we are talking about a male who has just mutilated 19 children?

    That's what I'm not understanding in this conversation.

    Fruitfly went off his head the other night using this word in a targeted fashion and it was vile.

    While I understand the pushback, I think it went too far. On the whole I think we moderate ourselves pretty well here.

    I will not stand for vilification of others in any form though and I think that was the problem here.


    Don't ask what a thong is in Aussie vernacular.

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    WolfenBane 🐺 SAV Werewolf
    Jun 02
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    "Don't ask what a thong is in Aussie vernacular"


    Would it be wrong for me to say during winter I tend to wear socks, and thongs? 😅


    And you're right, it is about context, thank you for pointing that out to me.


    I remember when I went to the US to see Mrs Wolfenbane, and I was feeling tired after a long drive. I said "I'm Stuffed" and she looked at me like I had 3 heads, then I had to explain it was a way of saying that I was tired.


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    perlinator
    Jun 03
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    @Shade Garden It's hilarious to watch a certain Bugs Bunny cartoon from the 1940's, in which Bugs Bunny yells out "Goodnight, Sylvester. Don't forget your rubbers!"

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    cath
    Jun 01

    As a Brit, I use the cee word when I'm extremely cross, and it has become un-gendered here, as, it seems, in Australia. (Eg, applied to Trump or Johnson 👿)

    Swearing can be therapeutic, and you need to retain something transgressive.

    Does anyone know if Australians have words that still have shock-value?

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    Elon's Musk
    Jun 02
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    I think calling Trump or Johnson the c-word would be entirely appropriate in America. The issue here is generally using it against women. Not against men who, quite frankly, are absolute c-words.

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    WolfenBane 🐺 SAV Werewolf
    Jun 02
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    @Elon's Musk Agree, The C word is used as either a greeting, compliment, or description between certain males in a group that have the name "Bogans" (Sort of our own term for rednecks).

    Against women though it's a derogatory term that just about everyone says is crossing the line.

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    Highly illogical
    Jun 01

    The word period for full stop is startling to me as in the UK this means a menstrual period which were always kept completely secret and undiscussed in my day. So when someone says '...blah blah blah. PERIOD' it's like someone ran into the room and shouted something rude very loudly!


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    Shade Garden
    Jun 02
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    Period means menstrual cycle here in the US too, but somehow people don't really equate the punctuation with it. I don't know why.

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    perlinator
    Jun 03
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    I once knew a girl who was so inquisitive, once a month she would have a question mark.

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    Highly illogical
    Jun 01

    I'm not sure I believe the Queen would use the c-word - in my experience it's still the one that would cause genuine shock - I have never used it out loud.


    Hundreds of years ago the equivalent word was quim so some Brits were rather startled by Loki and his mewling quim comment because he was in effect calling her a 'whining c***'!



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    Tanner Balzac
    May 27

    Sigh...what would the Bard say?


    Hamlet: Lady, shall I lie in your lap?

    Ophelia: No, my lord.

    Hamlet: I mean, my head upon your lap?

    Ophelia: Ay, my lord.

    Hamlet: Do you think I meant country matters?

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    Variant of Concern
    May 27

    Oldsters like me remember that to say something sucked or sucks was quite risque, It slowly year by year worked its way into the general vernacular

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    Mrs. WorryMonster
    May 27
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    I went to visit an American friend who had moved to England for work. When I exited the plane, immigration asked me what my business was in England and when I said I was visiting a friend, she asked if we were "lovers" which I thought was quite rude, as it is none of her business if we were having sex. Apparently, that is a more general term for "romantically involved" in England?

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    DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon
    May 27
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    Oh, here’s a goodie that I was oblivious to growing up: gypsy. We toss that around casually over here in the USA. Much to the extreme offense of the Romani people.

    Edit to add that I grew up with people casually saying to “gyp” someone and also to “Jew them down”. I had no clue these terms were even racist in origin at the time. They were so commonly used.

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    WolfenBane 🐺 SAV Werewolf
    Jun 03
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    @Elon's Musk A friend of ours has the ability to bargain everything down, we jokingly nicknamed him J Boy, he wasn't offended in any way, and took it in his stride.

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    FishGuy
    May 27
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    I once got an ass-chewing from an Australian hotel maid because I used the word "bugger". In the U.S., "bugger" is an innocuous term for "damned annoying thing" and has nothing whatever to do with forcible sodomy. I was completely shocked at how pissed off she got over my use of that word to describe a sticking suitcase latch.

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    WeepsforHumanity
    May 27
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    @FishGuy 🤣🤣🤣

    I’m sorry. I’m sure you were mortified, but that made me burst out laughing!

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    WolfenBane 🐺 SAV Werewolf
    Jun 02
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    In Australia, if you want someone, or something to go away the term is "Bugger Off".

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    WeepsforHumanity
    May 27
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    Hard opening and closing consonants. That’s why I like “prick” and “dick” so much. Strange that there’s no taboo on any of the names for the male genitalia. Maybe because they’ve always been so inordinately proud of them.

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    WeepsforHumanity
    May 27
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    @piscean blowhard Excellent! How have I never seen this?

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    DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon
    May 27
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    Cigs being fags still always causes me pause. Yet I like the c word. Go figure. Maybe because I have a c? So I figure it’s ok? Who knows but it’s a satisfying word. Swear words need good mouth feel.

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    Dip Dibbler
    May 27
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    to C or not to C, is that a question? One thing that confuses me at times is not knowing if a member is male, female, or something else. yah, I get some blowback or condescension about the topic. I remind people it's OK to be hetro...for me anyway.

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    DeathofRats-BadgeHoorMaroon
    May 27
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    @Dip Dibbler Hetero she/her here. I’m just not easily personally offended anymore. I do get offended on the behalf of others, though. So if someone says they don’t like something then I try to be sensitive about it. (And I always try to call out shitty sweeping generalizations.) There’s all sorts of stuff I had zero clue was offensive to people because I didn’t know the stories behind those things. If someone tells you that they’re hurt by something, it’s the time to listen, learn and do better.

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    Shade Garden
    Jun 02
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    @Dip Dibbler - I think the c word is appropriate when used for people like Marjorie Taylor Green.

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    WeepsforHumanity
    May 27
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    I’ve never heard of a minge, but I can guess. I find this hilarious, since every time I watch a British costume drama on PBS there’s a female character named Fanny. I’ll chalk it up to evolving usage, like “gay.”

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    Krissie Kochanski
    May 27
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    @WeepsforHumanity Oh no, have I offended you?! Are you a Fanny?

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    Highly illogical
    Jun 01
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    There is a British novel by Patrick Hamilton set in Victorian London called 'Fanny by Gaslight' which always amuses me.


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    Krissie Kochanski
    May 27
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    This is an old one but I still find it funny when Americans use the word ‘fanny.’ In the UK that means a girl’s ‘minge.’