I hope that every single person who disagrees with this and other rulings sure to come that can afford to, moves from these states that are stripping away womanās rights. Letās see how well these shitholes do with decreased tax revenue from a dwindling population. I will never visit or spend a single cent in any state that has jumped on the "letās go back to the dark ages" bandwagon. Give all that tax revenue and spending to states that deserve it.
I was 15 years old when abortions became legal in US.
An article about Gerri Santoro who died from a self(done by her lover) abortion before Roe vs Wade became law. The article was in Ms Magazine 1973. Her death and photo became symbol of abortion rights.
**WARNING: IF YOU CLICK ON PHOTO THE PHOTO IS SHOCKING
35 years ago I was on the streets, we demonstrated and fought for our right for abortion. In Poland they did, in France they did. I think each woman right had to be fought for, in each country, worldwide.
We organized information for women and organized help for them to get abortion as good as possible. We organized shelter when women had to disappear from their (often oppressing) families.
I'm afraid that you have to fight to get your right for abortion, for self-determined sex and relationships and that you have to finish with discussions and with being friendly. Study your enemies, use each of their faults. Hit hard.
That whole process seems to me not being a matter of planning the future or caring for a fetus or for babies.
I think it's a matter of power and money.
- Dumb and powerless losers need someone they can oppress, therefore they vote a party which stands for free guns for all and oppressing people with another opinion/lifestyle/religion/gender ...
- The politicians do want to maximize their power and their votes and want to become elected to raise the stairs of political power.
- The decider as well are maximizing the benefit of their decisions, may be money (if they are bribed/bought) or they have other personal interests.
None of them are caring for the society or for you.
Some years back, I was researching something unrelated to abortion in local newspapers from the 1800s. This was in a small town in Pennsylvania. I was surprised to see ads for what were basically abortion pills. Usually they used a euphemism such as āto treat obstructed flowā and āespecially suited to married womenā. Abortion did not begin in 1973, in fact it has been common all through history.
The knowledge of what was in these pills is still around. Were they toxic and potentially harmful? Hell if I know, but probably so. I would imagine that this information can and will be disseminated pretty quickly. It is barbaric that it has come to this, but it has.
Had a long convo with my 16-17 yo kids. They were rightfully pissed about the SCOTUS ruling BUT it sounded like their peer group has been āgroomedā (hate the term now but it fits) to see both political parties at fault. Decades of GQP running on āgovt doesnāt work and is evilā; getting elected on that premise; proving the premise by blocking anything useful once elected; then blaming the Dems especially when they have nominal majority in congress/White House; and continuing the little lies about voting fraud have taken its toll. We discussed how Dems have had a mixed history of contributing to a lot of these problems, especially the corporate Dems and the ārepublican-liteā Dems.
However, it dawned on me there really is only one clear and simple message/concept ALL voters need to focus onāelect fascists and we get fascist policies. Keep electing fascists and we eventually have a fascist government. All the other bullshit in media and social interwebz is just noiseāmuch of it generated by those with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. The Republican party has proven now that they are fascistāeither outright or through consent.
A bill to legalise abortion has been rejected by right-wing MPs, making Poland one of the few European countries with very strict abortion laws.
In 2020, the Constitutional Court further restricted the right to abortion, declaring it unconstitutional to terminate pregnancies resulting from foetal abnormalities.
The decision of the Court, dominated by judges associated with the ruling Law and Justice party, resulted in several weeks of unrest, mass protests and strikes.
Since then, abortion in Poland has been legal only in cases of danger to the life and health of the mother and in cases of pregnancy resulting from rape.
Anti-choice groups, which demand a ban on abortion in general, have announced that they plan to make abortion illegal in Poland altogether.
The kind caring anti-abortion people screaming with their hate filled voices and faces, as in the photos often seen. Doxing the judges who decided against, and threatening their wives and children with violence. That shows the real level of them. Self seeking animals who actually have no care or concern and no religion. Now the weak and vulnerable will suffer death, at the hands of backstreet abortionists. Babies left in skips and streets put to die. Mothers dying of ectopic pregnancy and sepsis-etc
I actually believe this bestial matter will become unworkable, and that the majority, who support abortion rights, will win through
Been trying and trying to think of something to say on here. I've got a boulder in my stomach and tears right behind my eyes. "I'm sorry", is all I can get out right now. Canadians are feeling your pain deeply.
To our wonderful friends across the pond, we're all deeply shocked, and stunned by the decision. This has been a hard right wet dream for years, and they will now turn to other regressive decisions in the near future that will impact heavily on many others.
I fear for peoples safety, health, and well being in what is supposed to be the "freest nation" on earth.
There are no words that I can describe to say to you all at how horrified that millions of us across the globe are feeling right now.
It's going to be a tumultuous time in the US for anyone now, and I hope that maybe one day soon, sanity will prevail.
I feel sorrow and pity for the 11 million women who have lost the right to decide whether or not to have a child.
No, that statement is not hyperbole because Thomas himself, has stated that the court should strike down all the laws regarding contraception, gay marriage, gay rights, hell, why not the right of women to vote, too?
I'd like to ban him from the court. He is scum and his wife is worse.
A very sad day for this country. I see no improvement until we vote out all Republicans from every single office they hold.
I was class of 77 and remember much the same things. Whatever happened to the promise of greater rights in the early 1970s? I saw the conservative shift while I was in college, particularly among the students working in the campus paper. The upperclassmen still maintained the earlier 70s leftist mode, but the ones coming up behind them were predominantly Reagan conservatives. By 1981, the editorial outlook of the paper had done a complete turnaround. Think of it in terms of CNN suddenly becoming Fox.
Back in the fall of 1972, I was a HS senior, turning 18 in October. I was year book editor and contributed to the school paper. I wrote a pro-choice editorial, and voted for McGovern. Was devastated when Nixon beat him in a landslide.
Kit Bond was elected governor. Back then he was a garden variety Repub and supported choice. So did the Bushes. I believe Barbara remained pro choice her whole life, but would never speak about it publicly. So were the Fords and Betty did some pot stirring as I recall by saying she wouldnāt be bothered if her daughter had premarital sex.
But in January 1973 the SC ruled overly restrictive state abortion laws unconstitutional. And women had the constitutionally protected right to an abortion. I was so happy. It happened early enough we were able to include it in the yearbook. This was an era where the war and all the issues of the day were coveredby student journalists in the paper/yearbook and discussed by students.
For a time, the jocks, cheerleaders and homecoming queens were not all that.š
Wait, just remembered this. in 1971 the homecoming nominees were two senior cheerleaders and a hippy chick. Hippy chick won. She wore the requisite white formal, and BF put on a suit.
BF was Ozark Mountain Daredevils band member Larry Lee.
The hippies loved it, and actually attended the homecoming in our long cotton halter dresses and other finery, slightly stoned of course. Fun, fun times.š¤£
And today I am so damn pissed and sad. How did a world where a womanās right to choose was affirmed, and we actually got the US to finally get the hell out of Viet Nam go? Hell,I thought pot would be legal by the early 80s.
Then Reagan was elected.šŖ
Folks sorry for this stream of consciousness disjointed rant. I had to post it somewhere and felt yāall would understand.
Clarence and Jenni Thomas claim to be Catholic. Clarence Thomas was able to get his DIVORCE, with one child. He was allowed to remarry, I guessing. Jenni Thomas has NOT ever given birth. It is my understanding that Catholics are instructed by church to have children and do not allow for divorce. Why do they not have children, church doctrine, or adopted children if they are required by they "faith". Hypocrite!!!
@elizabethcruikshank7 Who knowsā¦ Maybe someday it will come out that she had an abortion. These fucking hypocrites. When they come out as against something, theyāre usually 100 percent guilty of it.
According to Catholic doctrine, Thomas is still married to Kathy Grace Ambush and he is living in sin with Virginia Lamp. When you're a star, they let you do it.
If these goddamn motherfuckers repeal gay marriage it is my death sentence! If my spousal benefits are cut off my I canāt pay the last 10 years I have left on my retirement home. Rents cost more than my house payment. I will last living in my car about 1 week! Fuck you sons of bitches! Die you sons of bitches for destroying me!!
Poland is also going to require that Pregnant women be registered with the state as well... via their doctor. Texas is planning something similar... How else will they monitor your pregnancies...
@VACCINATE or ICU later šalligator How else will they monitor pregnancies? Your location information, your search history, and even your email and text messages. All it takes is a regime willing and able to do that. This is rapidly turning into 1984 meets The Handmaidās Tale.
Malta, Europe on June 2022: Dark Age
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/23/world/europe/malta-abortion-andrea-prudente.html
How an Abortion Ban Trapped a Tourist on Malta
Andrea Prudente, an American, developed potentially life-threatening pregnancy complications while on the island. But abortion is illegal there...
She has been evacuated to Spain for saving her life:
https://www.euronews.com/2022/06/23/barbaric-maltas-abortion-law-threatens-us-womans-life-say-doctors
It's time to stand up and fight in Europe for women's rights as well (and again).
They want fetuses to grow up and become target practice.
I hope that every single person who disagrees with this and other rulings sure to come that can afford to, moves from these states that are stripping away womanās rights. Letās see how well these shitholes do with decreased tax revenue from a dwindling population. I will never visit or spend a single cent in any state that has jumped on the "letās go back to the dark ages" bandwagon. Give all that tax revenue and spending to states that deserve it.
I was 15 years old when abortions became legal in US.
An article about Gerri Santoro who died from a self(done by her lover) abortion before Roe vs Wade became law. The article was in Ms Magazine 1973. Her death and photo became symbol of abortion rights.
**WARNING: IF YOU CLICK ON PHOTO THE PHOTO IS SHOCKING
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerri_Santoro#
35 years ago I was on the streets, we demonstrated and fought for our right for abortion. In Poland they did, in France they did. I think each woman right had to be fought for, in each country, worldwide.
We organized information for women and organized help for them to get abortion as good as possible. We organized shelter when women had to disappear from their (often oppressing) families.
I'm afraid that you have to fight to get your right for abortion, for self-determined sex and relationships and that you have to finish with discussions and with being friendly. Study your enemies, use each of their faults. Hit hard.
That whole process seems to me not being a matter of planning the future or caring for a fetus or for babies.
I think it's a matter of power and money.
- Dumb and powerless losers need someone they can oppress, therefore they vote a party which stands for free guns for all and oppressing people with another opinion/lifestyle/religion/gender ...
- The politicians do want to maximize their power and their votes and want to become elected to raise the stairs of political power.
- The decider as well are maximizing the benefit of their decisions, may be money (if they are bribed/bought) or they have other personal interests.
None of them are caring for the society or for you.
Some years back, I was researching something unrelated to abortion in local newspapers from the 1800s. This was in a small town in Pennsylvania. I was surprised to see ads for what were basically abortion pills. Usually they used a euphemism such as āto treat obstructed flowā and āespecially suited to married womenā. Abortion did not begin in 1973, in fact it has been common all through history.
The knowledge of what was in these pills is still around. Were they toxic and potentially harmful? Hell if I know, but probably so. I would imagine that this information can and will be disseminated pretty quickly. It is barbaric that it has come to this, but it has.
Had a long convo with my 16-17 yo kids. They were rightfully pissed about the SCOTUS ruling BUT it sounded like their peer group has been āgroomedā (hate the term now but it fits) to see both political parties at fault. Decades of GQP running on āgovt doesnāt work and is evilā; getting elected on that premise; proving the premise by blocking anything useful once elected; then blaming the Dems especially when they have nominal majority in congress/White House; and continuing the little lies about voting fraud have taken its toll. We discussed how Dems have had a mixed history of contributing to a lot of these problems, especially the corporate Dems and the ārepublican-liteā Dems.
However, it dawned on me there really is only one clear and simple message/concept ALL voters need to focus onāelect fascists and we get fascist policies. Keep electing fascists and we eventually have a fascist government. All the other bullshit in media and social interwebz is just noiseāmuch of it generated by those with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. The Republican party has proven now that they are fascistāeither outright or through consent.
Poland:
https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/short_news/polish-parliament-rejects-abortion-bill/
From 24 June 2022 / Yesterday
A bill to legalise abortion has been rejected by right-wing MPs, making Poland one of the few European countries with very strict abortion laws.
In 2020, the Constitutional Court further restricted the right to abortion, declaring it unconstitutional to terminate pregnancies resulting from foetal abnormalities.
The decision of the Court, dominated by judges associated with the ruling Law and Justice party, resulted in several weeks of unrest, mass protests and strikes.
Since then, abortion in Poland has been legal only in cases of danger to the life and health of the mother and in cases of pregnancy resulting from rape.
Anti-choice groups, which demand a ban on abortion in general, have announced that they plan to make abortion illegal in Poland altogether.
The kind caring anti-abortion people screaming with their hate filled voices and faces, as in the photos often seen. Doxing the judges who decided against, and threatening their wives and children with violence. That shows the real level of them. Self seeking animals who actually have no care or concern and no religion. Now the weak and vulnerable will suffer death, at the hands of backstreet abortionists. Babies left in skips and streets put to die. Mothers dying of ectopic pregnancy and sepsis-etc I actually believe this bestial matter will become unworkable, and that the majority, who support abortion rights, will win through
Been trying and trying to think of something to say on here. I've got a boulder in my stomach and tears right behind my eyes. "I'm sorry", is all I can get out right now. Canadians are feeling your pain deeply.
Here's an editorial from The Guardian, through Yahoo--I think it's pretty good in outlining the occasionally surprising twists and turns of how we got to this point in Talibangelicalism: https://www.yahoo.com/news/christian-took-over-judiciary-changed-070008675.html
To our wonderful friends across the pond, we're all deeply shocked, and stunned by the decision. This has been a hard right wet dream for years, and they will now turn to other regressive decisions in the near future that will impact heavily on many others. I fear for peoples safety, health, and well being in what is supposed to be the "freest nation" on earth. There are no words that I can describe to say to you all at how horrified that millions of us across the globe are feeling right now. It's going to be a tumultuous time in the US for anyone now, and I hope that maybe one day soon, sanity will prevail.
I just canāt. Been soul sick all day.
I feel sorrow and pity for the 11 million women who have lost the right to decide whether or not to have a child.
No, that statement is not hyperbole because Thomas himself, has stated that the court should strike down all the laws regarding contraception, gay marriage, gay rights, hell, why not the right of women to vote, too?
I'd like to ban him from the court. He is scum and his wife is worse.
A very sad day for this country. I see no improvement until we vote out all Republicans from every single office they hold.
I was class of 77 and remember much the same things. Whatever happened to the promise of greater rights in the early 1970s? I saw the conservative shift while I was in college, particularly among the students working in the campus paper. The upperclassmen still maintained the earlier 70s leftist mode, but the ones coming up behind them were predominantly Reagan conservatives. By 1981, the editorial outlook of the paper had done a complete turnaround. Think of it in terms of CNN suddenly becoming Fox.
Back in the fall of 1972, I was a HS senior, turning 18 in October. I was year book editor and contributed to the school paper. I wrote a pro-choice editorial, and voted for McGovern. Was devastated when Nixon beat him in a landslide.
Kit Bond was elected governor. Back then he was a garden variety Repub and supported choice. So did the Bushes. I believe Barbara remained pro choice her whole life, but would never speak about it publicly. So were the Fords and Betty did some pot stirring as I recall by saying she wouldnāt be bothered if her daughter had premarital sex.
But in January 1973 the SC ruled overly restrictive state abortion laws unconstitutional. And women had the constitutionally protected right to an abortion. I was so happy. It happened early enough we were able to include it in the yearbook. This was an era where the war and all the issues of the day were coveredby student journalists in the paper/yearbook and discussed by students.
For a time, the jocks, cheerleaders and homecoming queens were not all that.š
Wait, just remembered this. in 1971 the homecoming nominees were two senior cheerleaders and a hippy chick. Hippy chick won. She wore the requisite white formal, and BF put on a suit.
BF was Ozark Mountain Daredevils band member Larry Lee.
The hippies loved it, and actually attended the homecoming in our long cotton halter dresses and other finery, slightly stoned of course. Fun, fun times.š¤£
And today I am so damn pissed and sad. How did a world where a womanās right to choose was affirmed, and we actually got the US to finally get the hell out of Viet Nam go? Hell,I thought pot would be legal by the early 80s.
Then Reagan was elected.šŖ
Folks sorry for this stream of consciousness disjointed rant. I had to post it somewhere and felt yāall would understand.
Clarence and Jenni Thomas claim to be Catholic. Clarence Thomas was able to get his DIVORCE, with one child. He was allowed to remarry, I guessing. Jenni Thomas has NOT ever given birth. It is my understanding that Catholics are instructed by church to have children and do not allow for divorce. Why do they not have children, church doctrine, or adopted children if they are required by they "faith". Hypocrite!!!
If these goddamn motherfuckers repeal gay marriage it is my death sentence! If my spousal benefits are cut off my I canāt pay the last 10 years I have left on my retirement home. Rents cost more than my house payment. I will last living in my car about 1 week! Fuck you sons of bitches! Die you sons of bitches for destroying me!!
CHRISTIAN MEN BE LIKE:
CHRISTIANS WOMEN BE LIKE
The educated world be like:
I'm living in Europe and it seems to me falling into dark ages. I'm with you!
Edit: forgot to mention Poland, there abortion is banned completely, even if the pregnant woman has the risk of dying.