Fat Shaming

So some ugly and hateful comments are more ugly and hateful than others? Or maybe it’s to others? I’m not not sure it’s not disingenuous to be part of a site that exists to do things most people would consider to be at least rude and for many downright ugly and hate filled. Wasn‘t it Thumper that taught us if you can’t say something nice, say nothing at all. Pretty sure he would be inclusive of dead, southern, Trump loving, christian, anti-vaxxers. Most of the comments here are designed to hurt other peoples feelings. I can’t see how anyone can honestly think their own foibles won’t indirectly be mentioned at some point. We all share at least something in common with a lot of these AVers in fact the only safe assumption we can make is that we don’t share the position on vaccines. If that’s the yardstick then that’s the only actual place to comment on. Then the catharsis and schadenfreude of death there isn’t quite as sweet.

Thank you. There is a mountain of scientific literature that shows that anti-fat bias DOES NOT HELP ANYONE and literally kills people (such as through misdiagnosis and causing people to avoid the healthcare system). Anyone who claims to "trust the science" should reevaluate their stance and actions.

On a personal note, as someone who has a fat partner, friends, and family members, it is so fucking painful and awful to see what anti-fat bias does to them. 75% of the US is overweight/obese, and many many countries aren't much different. This is a worldwide issue that affects a huge percent of the population, and we are hurting these people. We need to do better for everyone's sake.

The fat-shaming is precisely why my wife doesn't want anything to do with this site. She would prefer I have nothing to do with it, because she views me being here as accepting of such people.

I imagine most of those here are cowards in real life, in that they would never do that to someone in public. If they really "care" about someone's weight they don't even know, shouldn't they be calling out every person they see in public?

I agree with you. I am a eating disorder survivor and was bullied about being overweight as a kid. Fixed that in my 20s, bulimic turned anorexic. Therapy and a book called Intuitive Eating was a great help. If you are hooked on drugs or alcohol, those can be eliminated from your life but we all need food to survive. I just joined the online yoga class of Jessamyn Stanley and I highly recommend her book "Yoke"

The fat shaming is stupid. But I would argue misogyny is well and alive here too. Every time we have a widow here, INSURANCE MONEY/she secretly got vaxxed in and was the one who convinced him not to vax bullshit comes up. One of the very recent ones the dude was posting anti-vaxx and RW conspiracy theory garbage on Facebook and predictably gets covid and dies, and the wife, who didn't seem to spend her days posting dumb shit is now being accused of secretly being the one who convinced him not to and needs to be investigated. LMAO.

Oh come on, who doesn't hate fatties?

Speaking from experience, it's a self loathing thing.

You're not an idiot or a party pooper. You're spot on. Quoting some peer reviewed literature: <<Many health care providers and patients share the belief that obesity is the product of poor lifestyle choices that are under the voluntary control of affected individuals. This can lead to stigmatization of people with obesity and a reluctance to use the full range of available treatments... It is now generally recognized that body weight is a physiologically regulated parameter, and obesity is recognized as a disease of body weight regulation, much as diabetes is a disorder of glucose regulation and hypertension is a disorder of blood pressure regulation....>>

Lots of us who care about others and are masked, vaxxed and boosted know how agonizingly hard it is to lose weight and keep it off. Our bodies are programmed NOT to cooperate.

When AVers act all Trump-y and bigoted and hateful, it's easy to despise them. But their obesity reflects the fact that their genetic and environmental milieu was/is abysmal. We have plenty enough to scorn them for that IS under their control. I agree that it would be best to leave weight out of it.

Btw, all these supposed pro-science body shamers ought to stfu and learn a thing - or million - from Dr. Johnson. They think they’re smarter than him? Think again. Science is science. The last great “acceptable” bullying needs to die.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59618458-nature-wants-us-to-be-fat

Oh, I tried smacking asshats down for their bullshit, but even the ones that seem decent on all other fronts have said shit like, “it’s ok to shame fat because fat is shameful”. I even tried to educate about metabolic disorders and how shaming fat just let’s sick skinny-fat people think they’re healthy. The data doesn’t lie. The problem is we have a fuckton of sick people that don’t know they’re sick but like to sit on a high horse and attack the “other”. One person who seems very well-educated called a person a “whale” that he was attracted to before he realized she was a “whale”. These people are fucksticks and they can’t comprehend how grotesque and wrong they are. I’d offer them links to researchers so they can begin to grasp the complexities of metabolism but theyre far too comfy in their superiority. They think they’re controlling the works and not the other way around. Lots of hubris out there. People like or feel like they’re superior. They’re not.